Tired of this Science and Mathematics crap. Nincompoop politicians, go fuck yourself.

Where should I start? I don’t really know. I’m not very sure.

Our politicians are treating us like punching bags. We are receiving blows after blows, damaging us inside out to the point we are either half dead, paralysed and unable to respond or become immune to the situation that we no longer have any sense of feeling. We no longer care. We get disheartened.

Not all of us are fighters. Not many of us would fight back. Interestingly, many would just sit there or lie down obediently to receive these punches, citing the lack of resources to fight on equal ground as their reason.

Our politicians are bunch of sickos! Be it from Barisan Nincompoops or Pakatan Rakyat, they are the same, just the level or masochism differs. The pain they would inflict on us still hurt the same way.

Thursday July 9, 2009
Maths and Science back to Bahasa Malaysia (fuck you The Star, at the main page you put this title, but in the inside you changed it to a politically uptight title “It is Bahasa again but more emphasis will be placed on learning English“. Do you need to put that BUT in the title? Lapdog!)

PUTRAJAYA: The Government has decided to reverse the Teaching of Mathematics and Science in English policy and revert to Bahasa Malaysia in national schools and Chinese and Tamil in vernacular schools.

1st of all, fuck you Muhyiddin and other politicians alike.

Stop toying with our children. Pros or cons of this ‘new’ policy aside, what the hell politicians like you that knows shit about education and the hardship of the people at the receiving end, keep changing something of such importance, paramount to the development and the future of our younger generation like changing diapers? Fuck you.


Based on studies conducted in 2008, he said, the ministry found that only a small percentage of teachers fully used English to teach the two subjects.

“On average, the percentage of those using English during Mathematics and Science periods was around 53% to 58%,” he said, adding that only a small number of teachers were proficient.

That is because every time the government make a new policy, it is done hastily without proper preparation and studies! Why the fuck these teachers don’t teach the subjects in English when they are tasked to do so?

You fucking idiot, only a small numbers of teachers were proficient because they received lousy, substandard education that didn’t put strong emphasize in English when they were studying! That is why we have only 19.2% of secondary teachers and 9.96% of primary teachers were sufficiently proficient in English. Ain’t that pathetic?

I have to agree with the old grandmaster when he said,

But it’s the Government’s responsibility to train and supply capable teachers. I’m confident that our teachers will be able to study and teach in English.

I have written about this before, the actual problem is not the medium language used for teaching but quality of the teachers we have in my previous English or Bahasa Melayu for Science and Maths? where I opinionated for the implementation to be improved and not a complete U-turn of the policy.


But, since we already walked down the lane for the past 5 years, let’s keep it that way and stop flip flopping. it will do no good, this flip flop policies. Be firm. Bahasa Melayu or English? Stick with one.

That said, I am against the decision to gamble our students’ future again by changing it back to Bahasa Melayu. Keep using English as medium for Science and Maths. Just make necessary improvements to the current system. Making an U-turn and start again with a totally new policy, is a waste of time and stupid. Gradual changes to the continuing policies is acceptable, but abrupt change of policies should be avoided.

And here we are, wasting our time and energy again for the sake of political survival? And hey! Don’t you love the timing of this policy announcement? At the dawn of a by election – Manik Urai! Just dig the archives, I bet tons of new policies were announced during elections.

So save it, Muhyiddin. We don’t buy your crap about ‘the reason for the reversal in policy was due to objective considerations and not political ones.’ Why the need for you to stress this if it’s not relevant?

While I agree the proficiency and mastery of English language has nothing to do with learning it in Science and Mathematics, these two subjects – especially Science – rely heavily for information widely available in the medium of English. And fuck it, this country is just not ready to teach Science in English when it only translates all science terms directly (and lamely) from English or making senseless new word.

How are you going to translate those technical terms? I experienced first hand the difficulties to switch from Bahasa Melayu to English when I was in university, where most of the good reference books are in English. Bahasa Melayu technical books are basically just rip off of the original books. The lecturers would ask their students to refer to journals and references, which are written in English anyway.

Not to mention it would take YEARS to write/translate all the books on Science and Maths in Bahasa Melayu. After that the books would be obsolete. Every day, there is new research, explorations, new inventions and other introduced through hundreds of research papers. Do we have the right resources to interpret these materials into Bahasa Melayu? I am afraid not.

A pass in English is not necessary but with the latest change of policy the government would put more ‘efforts’ into improving the standard of the language as reflected in the headline ‘.. more emphasis would be placed on learning English’ so you don’t have to worry about declining standard of English among students nowadays. Trust the government to do the right thing, even when we are not happy with its decision!

Let’s move to bashing the hypocrites. I remember when Mahathir made the policy change to use English as the medium to teach Science and Mathematics, we also have such hoo haa hoo haa like now. And without fail, some kaki bodek fuckers would come out to LOUDLY lend their support, singing praises and glory – “Oh, it’s a wise move. We support bla bla we-love-to-kiss-smelly-asses la la la.” These lalang fuckers are the same people that are singing a different tune now.

Political groups welcome move to revert

PUTRAJAYA: Political groups have welcomed the move to revert the teaching of Mathematics and Science to Bahasa Malaysia.

I don’t have to name the political groups. Without reading the article, just by looking at the title I am sure MCA – Mou Chuntoi Association is one of them and yes, I was right. Dickless pussies. (Yeah, that term doesn’t make perfect sense). Note that you can always find perfect irony in their statements, just like what I posted on George Chan yesterday.

MCA information and communications bureau chief Lee Wei Kiat said the Government’s decision was in line with Unesco’s finding that students could learn the two subjects better in their mother tongue.

“For the past six years, many students were affected by the teaching of the two subjects in English and could not catch up.

“This announcement will ensure that our students are competitive in both subjects,” he said.

Lee said the Government’s policy change in 2003 was “a lesson to learn.”

“Many reports have shown that the Government was not prepared to implement such a policy. Because of that, we have lost so much money.

“Therefore, we hope the Government will thoroughly think over proposals for new policies to avoid making such mistakes,” he said.

Competitive in both subjects by learning it in Bahasa Melayu, Mandarin and Tamil. Right!

Samyvellu (MIC is Samyvellu, Samyvellu is MIC) of course would never miss out to give his opinion by consistently saying something stupid. Note the part where he said something about performance of students will improve WITH this decision (change to Bahasa Melayu) then “want more to be done to enhance the use of English in schools.”

MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu said MIC agreed with the Cabinet decision.

He said the Tamil Schools Headmasters Council has asked for both subjects to be taught in Tamil.

“Lets hope the performance of students will improve with this decision. We want more to be done to enhance the use of English in schools,” he said.

Hey, Hishammuddin Hussein was saying something? Wasn’t he the one that come up with pretty statistics every time UPSR and PMR results were announced during his tenure as the Education Minister? He claimed cows and pigs to show the standards of English, Science and Mathematics are getting better each and every year? Of course he was serving a different master back then.

Umno vice-president Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein was confident that a majority of the people would understand the Government’s decision if they looked at the reasons behind the move.

Hishammuddin, who was the former Education Minister, said it was impossible for the Government to expect everyone to receive the decision well.

“It is not a knee-jerk reaction as a result of political pressure,” he told a press conference here yesterday.

He said the ministry started to study the effects of teaching the two subjects in English during his time as Education Minister.

“We have been looking into the grouses raised for many months and even years,” he said.

Just google for the statistics released for the results of both subjects in public examinations – UPSR and PMR and you can be sure that this buggers is a pathological liar!

Still on hypocrites. While these buggers yapping about patriotism, Bahasa Melayu, mother tongue languages, national and vernacular schools and throwing every justifications they could think of, their children continue to get the best education possible, worth every money spent.  The poor and under priviledged will continue to slug it in schools using the medium of instruction which the government had ‘objectively’ considered for them.

Ironically, what our politicians think is good for our students doesn’t seem to be good enough for them. To where our politicians sent their children to? Najib sent his kids to an International School and I am sure that school doesn’t use Bahasa Melayu in their teaching.

I quote a paragraph written by Farish A Noor in his Facebook Notes to illustrate this point.


Secondly, one is struck by the most obvious observation that this policy has set back the process of development for scores of poor Malaysian children from every ethnic community, many of whom will remain in vernacular schools while the sons and daughters of the rich and powerful (many of them the brats of politicians, mind you) will probably be sent abroad to study in places like the United Kingdom, United States of America and Australia; where the medium of instruction will be in English. With one bold stroke, we have effectively opened a chasm between the rich and the poor, the privileged and the under-privileged, and in effect created two social classes. One made up of the poor lumpen proletariats who will be reduced to the status of surplus labour in the years to come, and another class of rich, well-connected, foreign-educated Malaysian elites whose cosmopolitan outlook and enhanced educational background will make them global citizens who can and probably will find their fortunes anywhere in the world. What a gift that we have given to the poor children of this country!

Our politicians never take us seriously. To add salt to the wound, some of us never bother to take things serious and dismiss all these as socio-political junks, allowing these ruthless nincompoops running amok with our lives. Or perhaps, it’s just me.

Maybe I should learn not to take thing seriously. It is a known fact that paying too much attention on the socio-political issues in this country is hazardous. You are susceptible to brain damage. You may get stroke or heart attack because of the rising blood pressure. Ah, talking about blood pressure, when I did my medical check up early of this month before I went for the Basic Offshore Safety and Sea Survival course, the BP reading is 140/90. That is considerably high for a young brat like me. I couldn’t find any reason to justify the high reading but now I think it may have to do with me eat, breath and shit too much political craps.

I need to read and write something happy. Or smoke something to make me happy. I’ll be back when I am happier. Take care guys, don’t let the nincompoops bring you down.

ps: NH, nah I blogged about it. Where’s yours?

pss: It’s Bahasa Melayu or Bahasa Malaysia? Fuck, can’t even get this right. Read the Constitution, idiots!

Mou Chuntoi – No balls

lalang – green, tall weeds.

kaki bodek – bootlicker, ass kisser, balls carrier.

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33 Responses to “Tired of this Science and Mathematics crap. Nincompoop politicians, go fuck yourself.”

  1. alexallied wrote on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    So, how long do you think will it take for them to finally realize the importance of English, and then revert it back to English again?


  2. bongkersz wrote on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    1. Next by election.
    2. Next Education Minister take over
    3. When it’s too late to make a change.


  3. Vijay Kumar Murugavell wrote on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Our Education Minister said “It was based on empirical studies and other specialist reviews,”

    He of course does not site details and sources but vaguely mentions percentages of those using English for science an mathematics and the usage in rural areas as even lower, citing only a small number of teachers who are proficient.

    We all know this, this finding is hardly earth shattering to justify vague “empirical studies” and “specialist reviews”.

    We have a shortage of teachers who are proficient simultaneously in 3 areas

    1) Bahasa Malaysia
    2) English
    3) The subject matter

    It is pointless sending a teacher who is a good translator to rural areas but with no background in science or mathematics.

    The scheme failed because of this, you can get away with teaching the subject in BM until secondary schools, then what?

    Our aspiring scientists and mathematicians will be hindered as the will discover that there are no advanced research papers in these subjects written in BM, so what are they going to do ? Ask UMNO to protest in front of the UN office and demand that the global community translate all available research papers into BM ?

    Leaving schools aside even in Corporate Malaysia its bad, a few months back, I was proof reading translations from English to BM for mock questions for a local financial consultant licensing examination, I discovered so many gaffes; my favorite is the translation of the word “Bank” as in banking institutions, maybank, public bank etc, the malay translation was “tebing” which literally means riverbank…

    In my industry too we have many who are not well versed in BM, English and the industry itself.

    Unless we do something drastic like employing foreign teachers and teaching our children from the time they are 7 years old, if we wait and train enough local teachers one more generation will be lost, if done at a later age when habit has formed we will need teachers who are proficient in both BM and English.

    No sense in waiting until the rice becomes porridge.Think about it cook cook (Fikir masak masak ha ha )


  4. NoktahHitam wrote on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    I would say, I agree to BM changeover. For the past 5 years, our teachers could teach kids in English. 1- Teacher not so literate. 2- Kids go Goo-Goo-Gaa-Gaa. 3- Not much emphasize when they taught English in Maktab Perguruan. (I could only roughly round the 3 things).

    On other note, I think they should introduce units in English. As in F = force, m = mass, a = acceleration.

    Although I have to admit, this was done at an untimely manner. It should’ve been much sooner or later (Manek Urai).

    It’s all said and done bro. They’ve used much brain power & analysis to come up with this decision (and I’m sure much smarter than us). It’s not something they flinched over night.

    Having said that, we should also set a new requirement, ALL menteri should be able to speak and write both BM & BI fluently.

    ps: When did I promise an entry on this? 😛


  5. NoktahHitam wrote on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    *couldNT teach in English well.

    Oh yeah, they should actually have a voting system for this. Ask RAKYATs what they want and not having someone to think for you.


  6. bongkersz wrote on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:52 pm

    “They’ve used much brain power & analysis to come up with this decision (and I’m sure much smarter than us).”

    I don’t agree with that. Smarter my ass.

    Teachers not literate in English, make them literate, not change the policy to suit the idiots. Kids go goo goo gaa gaa, it’s the fault of the teachers don’t know how to teach. Any good teacher would testify to that.

    I actually more pissed on the flip flop rather than discussing the merits of the language to be used to teach Math and Science.

    It’s simple. Why take the long way to learn ‘knowledge’? We lack of references and information in technical subjects. We lack manpower and brains to teach in Bahasa Melayu for these technical subjects.

    Architectural, engineering, medical all in English as most the terms derived from Latin words, and English already accommodates that.

    To quote the old man:

    22. Bahasa sesuatu bangsa akan dipelajari oleh orang asing jika bangsa itu amat maju dan terkenal dengan ilmu yang dimiliki dan diterokai olehnya. Demikian sebelum abad ke-15 Masihi orang Eropah terpaksa belajar bahasa Arab kerana tamadun Islam pada masa itu gah dan amat dihormati. Tetapi selepas orang Islam ketepikan sains, ilmu perubatan dan hisab, orang Eropah tidak lagi mempelajari bahasa Arab. Sebaliknya orang Arab dan Islam terpaksa belajar bahasa Eropah.

    23. Jika kita ingin bahasa Melayu digunakan dengan meluas kita perlu majukan diri kita dalam semua bidang terutama bidang ilmu dahulu. Sebelum daripada itu minat untuk belajar bahasa Melayu akan terhad kepada sekumpulan kecil sahaja.

    24. Kita belajar sains dan matematik untuk memajukan bangsa kita supaya satu hari mungkin kita akan terkenal berkenaan dengan penerokaan dan kajiselidik oleh kita dan orang lain akan belajar bahasa kita untuk mendapat ilmu yang diteroka oleh kita.

    It makes perfect sense to me. At least for Science subject and as long as we have idiots in Dewan Bahasa and Pustaka.


  7. bongkersz wrote on Jul 9, 2009 at 12:59 pm


    ps: I thought you would write one.. HAHA!


  8. NoktahHitam wrote on Jul 9, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    @bongkersz, The old man have some good points. But up to degree level, our standard BM is already up to that. Beyond that, you are required to learn overseas.

    PR flip flopping lagi pening. They were hard core against it, now nak ‘cha’ balik. Bodoh ke ape?

    Hopefully our anger doesn’t last long 😉


  9. NoktahHitam wrote on Jul 9, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    @bongkersz, Not a socio-political blogger anymore. There’s no need for that. Everyone wants to be righteous in their own way. Let it be. I want to focus NH for my unborn kids. How messed up their dad was when he reach adulthood 😉

    Menteri.net project bro? Amcam ? Mau buat?


  10. bongkersz wrote on Jul 9, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    @NoktahHitam, me not a socio political blogger also.

    I just write anything under the sun. Dah bosan2 later I will write other things. My socio political posts are basically rants.. cussing and cursing, not some kind of serious intelectual articles anyway 🙂 More to ridicule for own satisfaction.

    Menteri.net? Buat saja lah.. On saja.


  11. bongkersz wrote on Jul 9, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    @Vijay Kumar Murugavell, it’s in such a mess I don’t even know where to start but to rant and rant. The best is some kind of apocalyptic events wipe off these dungus and we can start new. Well, if we survive lah!

    Farish A Noor’s note attracts interesting comments, especially from those supporting BM for Science and Maths 🙂


  12. jeff lee wrote on Jul 10, 2009 at 9:54 am

    wow..so much f-fing around, can i join this orgy fest?


  13. suituapui wrote on Jul 10, 2009 at 2:15 pm

    BM also good, English also good….walk past a class here in Sibu and what do you hear? A teacher teaching in Foochow!!! Claimed that it was easier for the students to understand and for her to teach… PERIOD!


  14. Archie wrote on Jul 10, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    @bongkersz, exactly!!!


  15. Archie wrote on Jul 10, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    @suituapui, im giving tuition in hokkien LoL!


  16. bongkersz wrote on Jul 13, 2009 at 9:17 am

    @suituapui, what? how to teach in Foochow? what subjects? lol lol.. that’s really.. ‘creative’. HAHAHA! I think it’s the latter hahaha! What more easier to understand.. 😀


  17. Jackson Chai wrote on Jul 15, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    my english teacher said (his a lazy ass) alamat all science and math go malay and now they want me to teach english more from a normal 5 periods per week to a 10 periods per week im gonna die haha… well the politicians, they dont want us to improve… so politicians people if you’re reading reconsidered about this… our country is like 10 years behind we should improve ourselves dont waste money on gigantic government building instead of using it for public and environment to reflect the country. Improve the children’s education, and yes the science/math teachers they should improve their own language and grammar first haha coss i can find heck loads of errors in the test paper prepared by them and alot of pronunciation problems by them and I keep correcting them. Also make everyone fair don’t be such a racist


  18. Corporate Events wrote on Jul 15, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    You’re right, it’s neither. They put it here because the reasoning was that some “scientific testing” went on in paranormal research, an “alternative science” (see below). And to some extent that is true, regarding parapsychology.


  19. Corporate Events wrote on Jul 15, 2009 at 11:41 pm

    However mostly this category is misused by those asking magical mystical questions and those giving magical mystical answers. It’s funny, some people even get indignant when someone answers from a scientific viewpoint, not realizing that they are smack dab in the middle of the Science & Math category.


  20. Joga Singh wrote on Jul 26, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    Almost all of the studies carried out throughout the world come to the conclusion that a child educated through the mother tongue and the foreign language started after 12 years of age masters the foreign language better than the one educated through the medium of a foreign language, say English. That is why the respected institutions like UNESCO have been arguing since 1953 for mother tongue based education. The Unesco’s recent publication on the issue (available on the net) ‘Improving the Quality of Mother Tongue – based Literacy and Learning’, Bankok, UNESCO, 2008, which is based on worldwide studies, strikingly brings out three myths about learning a foreign language. It states, “One such myth is that the best way to learn a second language is to use it as a medium of instruction. (In fact, it is often more effective to learn additional languages as subjects of study.) Another is that to learn a second language you must start as early as possible. (Starting early might help learners to have a nice accent, but otherwise the advantage goes to learners who have a well developed first language.) A third is that the home language gets in the way of learning a second language. (Building a strong foundation in the first language results in better learning of additional languages.) Clearly these myths are more false than true, yet they guide the way policymakers tend to think about how speakers of other languages must learn dominant or official languages.” (Introduction, p. ii).

    The English medium schooling is ruining the education in non-English speaking countries; it is seriously disturbing their social fabric by creating two alien communities in terms of the codes of their communication; it is producing a linguistically handicapped and culturally dumb community devoid of any living link with a culture. Above all, it is harming the learning of English itself, an essential skill in present times. Joga Singh, Professor in Linguistics, India


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    @Rufor, what photo? 🙂


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  30. nobody pal wrote on Aug 12, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    If M’sia still uses Malay to teach English-based subjects then i see No point in going back to malaysia to study. I might as well go Singapore for my uni courses. If my parents were richer i’ll consider places like australia, new zealand, uk, us and so on. Plus, i was just wondering…how’re those students gonna cope with english when they go overseas to study? Or let alone carry out diplomatic ties (like international trade, embassy related jobs, etc) with other countries? Isn’t english needed for areas like that?


  31. Ngenghing wrote on Aug 14, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    What a DPM we got. Got head no brain Very easy get paliment to set rules that all those fuckers politician involve in education policy drafting be bared from sending their children overseas to study. enrlol in same school as poor and kampong rakyat children! then, DPM have brain. OTHERWICE, like me talk kok.


  32. Ngenghing wrote on Aug 14, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Nasib still young.’The eye brow hair grows longer than the pigtail’ Chinese proverb. Jangan ingat. Think for the future good world language is better. No offence DPM. I love you b’os I got no brain.


  33. whatsaysyou wrote on Oct 4, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Wonderful post and you said it well 🙂


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