Ya Allah!! Bodohnya Dia Ni..

I normally do not write anything touching on religions because most people feel it is a very sensitive issue and many do not even know what they are talking about when talking about religion (in my humble, arrogant opinion – oh yeah!) But this take the cake. Seriously Malaysia is becoming the laughing stock of the world because of the quality of our leaders and ministers. By now you should already aware of the issue of Herald newspaper vs Internal Ministry. If you don’t know WTF I am talking about, go find out about it, or put your head in the nearest toilet bowl and flush it.

It is about “The Herald” which is an in-house Catholic newsletter application for the annual renewal of its printing and publications license has been unreasonably witheld. The basis given by the Ministry of Internal Security for witholding its permit? Simply that the newsletter must stop publishing the The Herald in the national language. For those who are unaware, The Herald has 4 language sections within its paper, English, Chinese, Tamil and Bahasa Malaysia.

The pretext provided by the Deputy Internal Security Minister, Johari Baharom was that the word “Allah” can only be used by Muslims! How absolutely arrogant and preposterous!

This should not be an issue in the 1st place. Why? 1st, The Herald readers are Christian. It is a Christian newspaper. So obviously when they use Allah in their newspaper, they are referring to the Allah for Christians, not the Allah for Muslims. The reason given by the dumbass Deputy Internal Minister Johari Bahrom that the usage will confuse people is downright stupid. Of course you should know when you are reading a Christian publication the Allah in it refers to Christian God. Right? If you don’t agree, then you are in the same league which Johari Bahrom.

For those who are not familiar, the word “Allah” originates from the Arabic word “al-Lah” and it was used even in pre-Islamic times in the Middle East.

Allah (Arabic: ????, All?h) is the standard Arabic word for “God”.[1] The term is most likely derived from a contraction of the Arabic article al- and ?il?h “deity, god” to al-l?h meaning “the [sole] deity, God” (ho theos monos); another theory traces the etymology of the word to the Aramaic Al?h?. (wikipedia)

Read the below article for more understanding.

Malaysia Takes God’s Name in Vain

Posted:15:59 Dec-24-2007 Filed under: Islam Badawi
AsiaSentinel, Dec 24.

The Malaysian authorities’ refusal to renew the publication of the weekly Catholic newspaper The Herald unless it stops using the word Allah as the word for God in the Malay language is a demonstration of racism and linguistic ignorance, not religious purity.According to Deputy Internal Security Minister Johari Baharum, “Only Muslims can use ‘Allah’. It’s a Muslim word, you see. It’s from (the Arabic language). We cannot let other religions use it because it will confuse people,” he was reported as saying. “We cannot allow this use of ‘Allah’ in non-Muslim publications, nobody except Muslims. The word ‘Allah’ is published by the Catholics. It’s not right.”

But what Johari revealed was his ignorance of his own professed religion, of the Arabic language in which the Koran is written, and of the history and culture of Muslims throughout most of the world. God and Allah mean the same in different languages.

Muslims, like Christians do not worship a person called Allah. They worship a single supreme being which the Arabic language denotes as Allah. The very word Allah derives from the singular nature of the monotheistic deity. In the Arab world Allah has always been used by Christians (a significant minority) and Jews (a smaller but important minority until the creation of Israel) to denote the one God which the religions share. Ditto in Farsi.

In Indonesia 100 million Muslims have no problem with their Christian brothers using Allah to denote the supreme being in Bahasa Indonesia, the Indonesian version of the Malay language. So why should a United Malays National Organisation politician unless for some reason to ramp up Malay prejudice against non-Muslims and reinforce the notion that all Malays are and always will be Muslims?

Likewise among the (Roman) Catholics, the word in Latin (lingua franca of the Roman church) for God is Deus and is used without discrimination between Christians Muslims and Jews.

The Johari version of the world displays the same kind of ignorance as found among Christian fundamentalists in the United States and elsewhere who insist on saying that Muslims worship Allah rather than the God (an English word) that the two religions share. An English Koran uses the words “In the name of God the compassionate and merciful,” not “In the name of Allah the compassionate and merciful.”

If Malaysian Malays are confused about the distinction between Islam and Christianity because they use the same word to describe the one God, clearly there is a lot wrong with the educational system. But if a minister is so ignorant, how can the rakyat – Malaysia’s citizenry ­­- be expected to know better?

For Muslims, Jesus was a prophet of Islam. For Johari on the eve of the birthday of Jesus to make this astonishing decision is an insult to his own religion as well as to the Christian one from which Islam sprang.

So why has this become an issue now? This is similar to the issue of crucifixes in mission schools. Why suddenly brought these issues? To divide and rule? Only BN will benefit from divide and rule, that is why they choose to do that. To quote a blog I read :

“In recent weeks, we have seen Malaysians of all ethnic groups demonstrating for justice and accountability. The BN’s PR has been disastrous: it has succeeded in alienating, in turn, workers demanding a minimum wage, the lawyers, civil society groups clamouring for electoral reforms (backed mainly by Malays), Indian Malaysians and now, the Christians. What better time, from the BN’s point view, to try and prevent all these Malaysians from coming together. So the coalition raises divisive issues. And it is so ironic that it is using a widely accepted term for God to divide His people.”Malaysia have a constitution that guarantees freedom of worship and religion, but the ruling government never practice it. Article 11 of the Federal Constitution of Malaysia allows freedom of religion. but, they ignored applications for building licenses to Christians who need to build churches, they demolished Hindu temples, they allowed stupid and bigoted ulama to issue fatwa such as ‘Buddhist statues are haram’. (Try google Sabah Mufti’s Fatwa: Buddhist Statues are HARAM)

Ironic heh, the largest Buddhist statue is in the ‘Islamic’ State of Kelantan. (And yet) UMNO says that PAS is an extremist party and very intolerant towards non-Muslims or towards other non-Islamic religions.

So, why should I vote for this government? When most of the ministers are stupid and ignorant. And the PM is sleeping. (and dumb too). Why?

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18 Responses to “Ya Allah!! Bodohnya Dia Ni..”

  1. zewt wrote on Dec 26, 2007 at 2:19 pm

    like what rpk said… this could be a move to get the muslims to unite in the name of islam, cos i know the christians are not giving this up.

    –> yeah, with all the issues lately, it is pretty obvious they are working toward that direction.


  2. cibol wrote on Dec 26, 2007 at 11:23 pm

    The issue like after tenggelam then timbul balik. I think they never read. dumbass

    –> same shit different day yeah?


  3. Muslims Against Sharia wrote on Dec 26, 2007 at 11:37 pm

    People talk about the need to reform Islam. Now you can stop talking and start helping.

    With the help of our readers we went through the Koran and removed every verse that we believe did not come from Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate. We would like to publish Reform Koran in as many languages as possible. If you could help with translation, editing, or distribution of the Reform Koran, please email us at koran-AT-reformislam.org.

    In Memoriam of Aqsa Parvez.


    –> thanks for your invitation, i will have a look at your blog. but, i will think it is the bigoted interpretations by many religious people that cause the confusion, not the book itself. anyway, my point of view is, whoever the god it is, he/it must be laughing at us human after sending many versions of the ‘holy’ books and dozens of prophets to see us fighting against ourselves. what a god heh?


  4. nono wrote on Dec 27, 2007 at 6:43 am

    Excuse me Muslims Against Sharia, what do you mean by you went through the Koran and removed every verse that you did not believe it comes from Allah? You meant al-Quran or any other Kitab/Bible names Koran?

    If you are mentioning about al-Quran which is the best “mukjizat” of Rasulullah, I think you’re wrong cus there’s no such thing as false or error in al-Quran… Allah has promised that!

    Claiming that there is error in al-Quran or againts Allah’s commands, laws or shariah really shows that one is not being a Muslim.. Yes, he/she is using the title of Muslim but he/she dont even understand what is Islam. For a person to be in Islam one should practice the Pillar of Faith that includes these:
    1)To believe in Allah (SWT) (God) in His Existence, His right to be worshipped, His Oneness, His Attributes, and His right to legislate
    2)To believe in God’s angels
    3)To believe in the Holy Qur’an and the other Holy Books, (Torah, the Gospel of Jesus, the Psalms of David)
    4)To believe in God’s Messengers, of whom Adam was the first and the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was the last
    5)To believe in the Resurrection and the Day of Judgment
    6)To believe in Divine Preordainment

    –> as always, human is at fault at interpreting so called God’s words. I will leave at that.


  5. cibol wrote on Dec 27, 2007 at 11:03 am

    for once I tot he’s just a spammer .. ha ha ha. I hate blogger grrrrr …

    –> hehe, me also thought he’s just another spammer, but apparently not.


  6. nono wrote on Dec 27, 2007 at 6:46 am

    Duh I forgot to highlight point number 3


  7. Muslims Against Sharia wrote on Dec 27, 2007 at 7:19 am

    The Koran says that human life is precious and commands murdering infidels. The Koran commands to respect People of the Book and then says not to take them for friends. These are apparent contradictions and Allah is infallible, therefore he cannot contradict himself.


  8. Another Arab wrote on Dec 28, 2007 at 3:03 am

    Dear Members of this Forum

    Let us leave aside any religious diferences and just focus on the word ‘Allah’.

    Allah is a word that Bahasa Melayu has adopted from Arabic. Despite the fact that Malaysia is a Muslim country, Malaysia refused to embrace Arabic as one of its official languages.

    Therefore, no Malaysian authority has the right to determine/restrict the usage of any word that is purely Arabic in origin. That right belongs to the Arab League and its 22 member countries.

    I would suggest that a request be made to Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka to declare that ALLAH is Arabic in origin. Give them two weeks to respond failing which we can get the Arab League to declare in a statement that ALLAH is an Arabic word. That statement from the Arab League will end all these stupidity gushing from idiots at UMNO.

    All Malays please remember this – embracing Islam and being a Muslim does not make you a native speaker of the Arabic Language. Likewise, not all native speakers of the Arabic language are Muslims – there are Christians, Druzes and Jews amongst us.

    The word ALLAH had been in existence before Islam. So, do not forget that ALLAH in English is simply God. If you insist that ALLAH is a Muslim God, you should also explain that TUHAN is a pagan deity for the Malays.

    Dear Malays, please stop making fools of yourselves!

    by Another Arab

    –> Man, only UMNO idiots could come up with such a statement. What can I say? Ignorance is bliss


  9. nono wrote on Dec 28, 2007 at 4:01 am

    I concur with you Bongkersz… I won’t comment on anything about it. It is up to him either to believe or not to believe with al-Quran. Cus to me, we dont have to reform al-Quran or any other Kitab/Bible if we truly have faith towards Him. I 100%-ly believe in al-Quran because it comes from Him; Al-Quran is Allah’s words.

    Oh, why dont we reform our misunderstoods and wrong interpretation with God’s words? 1 question, who are you or who are we to correct the Creator, the Master, or the God? Dont you think that to correct God means you are clever and wise compare to HIM? So, do you think you are clever compare to Allah? Astagrfirullah..

    Yes, He is smiling and laughing at us … and He is going to give us a best “present”.. Time tells it all. Sooner, or later. Be prepare.. =)

    –> Back to the topic please You can talk about “Reform Koran” at his blog, he gave the link there.


  10. Muslims Against Sharia wrote on Dec 28, 2007 at 4:39 am


    “i will think it is the bigoted interpretations by many religious people that cause the confusion, not the book itself.”

    What would be an un-bigoted interpretation of the following (2.191) “kill them [infidels] wherever you find them”?

    –> well, it may be written years after the prophet died, in a way it is a form of human interpretation/hearsay. we will never know whether it is really God’s words, do we? but, you have a point there, a holy book that contradict itself is hard to believe


  11. Muslims Against Sharia wrote on Dec 28, 2007 at 5:57 am

    “it may be written years after the prophet died, in a way it is a form of human interpretation/hearsay”

    Our point exactly. That’s why verses like this have no place in the Koran.

    –> But again, who are you and me to determine which verse have place and which verse not? which is correct which is not?


  12. Muslims Against Sharia wrote on Dec 28, 2007 at 6:09 am

    “who are you and me to determine which verse have place and which verse not?”

    That’s easy. If two verses contradict each other, at least one of them could not have possibly come from God, because God is infallible. If one of those verse calls for mass murder, it could not have possibly come from God, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate.

    –> Hmm, then if two verses contradict each other, could it be both of them not come from God?

    Well, if one of those verse calls for mass murder, it could not have possibly come from God. Then why God allow evil in the world since he’s the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate? Why not he prevent all evil.


  13. Muslims Against Sharia wrote on Dec 28, 2007 at 5:48 pm

    “if two verses contradict each other, could it be both of them not come from God?”

    Yes, it could.

    “why God allow evil in the world”

    Because he gave people free will.


  14. nono wrote on Dec 31, 2007 at 11:26 am

    hahaha… =D

    hey Bongkersz, yes, Allah means God.. =)


  15. cibol wrote on Jan 1, 2008 at 12:49 am

    This year is gone but it had also made us a little strong.
    The path was long but we walked it with a song
    There were fears and tears but we also had some reasons for cheers
    Wishing you and your family a blessed new year




  16. kidpieces wrote on Jan 2, 2008 at 9:24 am

    Islam huh..

    well well, what say you about our Malaysian Health Minister Chua Soi Lek?



  17. kidpieces wrote on Jan 2, 2008 at 9:57 am

    I have to agree on that Malaysia is becoming the laughing stock of the world because of the quality of our leaders and ministers.

    Bonkerz, may i have the link to the particular article of The Herald’s that use word Allah, please? 😉

    Why Christians want to use the word Allah in referring to their God(s)? The Trinity I mean, Father, Jesus Christ and The Holy Ghost 😛

    That’s the question i need an answer from them especially, but what do you think why of the reason. The question merely to make sure that I would think there will be no harm of using the word Allah for non-Muslims.

    I am not..yet..implying that ‘Allah’ can only be used by the Muslims.

    People are tricksy 😉 That is how the non-Muslims usually do to trick other Muslims to convert into Christianity from Islam, by claiming their god(s), Father+Jesus Christ+The Holy Ghost, as the same as Muslims’ god, Allah.

    Hence, Gimme the particular link from Herald’s regarding this issue, please.. I will analyze it to the maximum core 😉


  18. kidpieces wrote on Jan 2, 2008 at 10:02 am

    Dear Muslim Against Sharia,

    I have visited your blog and leave a comment on your first post 😉


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