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Idiots guide to the correct medical procedures to be followed in cases of sodomy


Lazy to write, but I would love to share this for read, especially with the DNA-craze in the town, everybody talking like he/she is an expert. The way they talked about DNA, it’s like a holy grail or something.. if the person’s DNA is found at the scene, in the hole, that person is guilty for sure. Bah!

Conviction cannot be based on DNA evidence ALONE if there are a host of other conflicting and non-corroborative evidence. For example, if  a victim  claimed rape in a condominium in KL whilst the accused was addressing a seminar in Singapore at the material time, no amount of DNA recovered at the crime scene  is going to make any difference. :arrow:

Here I shamelessly present to you.. my another copy and paste job.:up:

‘Idiots guide to the correct medical procedures to be followed in cases of alleged sodomy’,

The historic trial of 1998 laid bare the extreme flaws of the country’s DNA squad, by design or otherwise. The grave concern from all quarters, national and international on the conduct of the current investigation is understandable and reasonable given the experience we were subjected to the last time this play was enacted. The accused and family who endured those humiliating moments of the last sham trial must be gutted by this sequel.

We offer below a short brief on DNA as an idiots guide to the correct medical procedures to be followed in cases of alleged sodomy. It is grounded on back to basics forensic medicine, founded on evidence and not emotions.

1) If the alleged victim claimed “the latest violation” on 26th June 08, had “counsel on 27th June 08 and reported to police on 28th June 08, it is highly likely that nature’s most efficient plumbing system would have flushed out whatever foreign fluids and tissue deposited within that most currently spoken of orifice. Almost all humans need to answer the big call at least once a day!

2) Notwithstanding the above, if indeed the alleged accused’s specimen was obtained from the ‘hole’, it would be imperative to verify the authenticity of the collection to ensure no foul play was involved in collecting the specimen.

3) DNA from the sample obtained in (2) can then be readily compared with the DNA fingerprint of the accused, assuming his DNA profile from the last trial had been safely archived. That is the role of the National DNA Database. It is hence nonsensical for the incessant calls for the accused to give his fresh blood to perform a match with the sample from (2). Unless of course in typical Malaysia Bolehland fashion, the accused’s DNA fingerprint records have gone missing! This then does not speak well of the professionalism of the investigating team. But then again it is but a recurring theme in so many other investigations of late.

4) The prime minister and the deputy IGP, amongst others have insinuated that old DNA from 10 years ago is of little or no use in the current saga. Let it be known by all and sundry that there is no expiry of DNA. For purposes of DNA fingerprinting alone, even the Jurassic dinosaurs DNA can be analysed, unless of course there is a sinister intention for use of the accused’s fresh DNA that is almost unthinkable.

We offer the following solution to the current impasse for the authorities kind consideration:

If at all it is legally required for the DNA of the accused to be analysed from a fresh blood sample, the following is the recommended procedure.

There must be three specimens

1. Blood from the accused
2. Blood from the alleged victim
3. Specimen from the “hole”

There must be two aliquots (portions) of each specimen and these must be presented concurrently to prevent any tampering by either or both parties. The chain of custody of the specimens must be strictly adhered.

DNA analysis of the three specimens can then be conducted independently by a laboratory of their choice (both parties getting 1 aliquot of each specimen). A holding watch of each process can be agreed upon.

DNA matching from the above can then be used as corroborative evidence to either acquit or convict. DNA does not lie provided humans handling them don’t.

As all Malaysian citizens would have realized by now, politics and medicine is a very volatile mix. The political sodomy of medicine in the trial of 1998 should make all of us even more wary of the innuendos which the current saga brings to fore. This, despite the exclusion of the IGP and AG from the investigating and prosecuting teams and all the assurances from the powers that be.

The Malaysian public in particular and interested parties around the world awaits the truth of the matter in this episode of “Sodomy Malaysian Style”. We pray that this time around truth will not be sacrificed at the altar of political gamesmanship!

In ALLAH we trust and HE knows best.

(Source: Malaysia-Today – The Malaysian DNA conundrum)

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10 Responses to “Idiots guide to the correct medical procedures to be followed in cases of sodomy”

  1. NoktahHitam wrote on Jul 23, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    lazy to write pon, nice post!

    Anyway, Anwar’s alibi ape of 26th June? Givin talk in Spore?

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  2. bongkersz wrote on Jul 23, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    Entah.. but he got his alibi, a very strong alibi and from what I read, he was meeting BN MPs at that time, at that condo.

    psstt.. you read RPK’s latest post? Apparently there is this guy followed Saiful during his meeting with Najib to ask for ‘scholarship’. ROTFLMAO!

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  3. clement wrote on Jul 23, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    aiyo… they still want to harass his kachuikang… shame on them

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  4. Coral wrote on Jul 23, 2008 at 6:50 pm

    Perhaps Saiful would claim he had constipation after reading point #1. :mrgreen:

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  5. KNizam wrote on Jul 23, 2008 at 10:54 pm

    lazy2 pun panjang gak posting ko ek :up:

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  6. suituapui wrote on Jul 24, 2008 at 7:05 am

    Ummm…so if they find traces of my DNA in u, but I can produce an alibi, they have nothing against me? No problem then! I can always ask my friends to rubberstamp my passport – say I was out of town/country!!! LOL!!! We’re safe, bongkersz! Hahahahahahaha!!!!…Soorry, ya! Old man! Not the very faham!!! Must rujuk pakar sodomy!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!

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  7. bongkersz wrote on Jul 24, 2008 at 8:52 am

    then remember to ask some friends to be your eye witness that you are indeed out of the town/country 😀 you can’t be seen eating at ruby when your passport says your were at thailand heh? 😛

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  8. bongkersz wrote on Jul 24, 2008 at 8:53 am

    I feel constipated reading news on Saiful. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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  9. bongkersz wrote on Jul 24, 2008 at 9:27 am

    hahaha! itu time malas heh.. kalau tak malas giler tuh!

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  10. melbie wrote on Jul 25, 2008 at 9:21 am

    me too bong! Haih… takda penghujung ka ni cerita ni … I like the posted guide here 😛 especially #4!

    Let it be known by all and sundry that there is no expiry of DNA. For purposes of DNA fingerprinting alone, even the Jurassic dinosaurs DNA can be analysed, unless of course there is a sinister intention for use of the accused’s fresh DNA that is almost unthinkable.

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